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Some voting stats…

[raw] LD18LD #18 - Enemies as Weapons - 2010 07. Sep 2010 · 19:08 UTC · 18 days after compo start by Martoon · 0

After getting slammed with a couple of troll rating votes (people who rated an entry with 1s across the board, while all other votes had decent ratings), I was curious about how much this was happening overall in the voting.

I ran some numbers, and put a report here: http://spampudding.com/troll.txt

The format is username and how many troll rating lines they received (1 or 2), followed by their average ratings in each category, followed by what their average ratings would have been without the troll votes.

These five entries were hit the hardest, each losing a quarter of a point or more in at least one category due to troll votes: http://spampudding.com/trolltop.txt

Assuming all votes were logged, I’m wondering if maybe the admins could go through the database and see if it was the same couple people making these votes.

Comments

07. Sep 2010 · 21:40 UTC
Thanks for putting this together. I also noticed the trolling with a solid row of 1s for my entry and some others.
07. Sep 2010 · 22:37 UTC
I think it’s best to just count the votes as they are cast. Maybe the row of ones was someone being a jerk, but it’s also quite possible it was what they thought the game should get. I don’t think there’s a good way to distinguish between the two.
bluescrn
08. Sep 2010 · 05:53 UTC
Or the alternative, make the voting more open, actually show name, so we can see who’s being overly harsh (or overly generous) – then we can maybe pester them for some more in-depth feedback if they havew genuine constructive criticism to make?
08. Sep 2010 · 11:10 UTC
Side note: IIRC the voting calculation discards the highest and lowest scores to help with the fairness. Phil/Pov, please chime in if that is wrong! I could swear we were doing that though.
08. Sep 2010 · 14:38 UTC
@mrfun: Yes, apparently it’s supposed to do that, but it’s not. I checked the numbers on my game and it seems like nothing was removed.
10. Sep 2010 · 16:05 UTC
I voted all ones for one of those games, and I don’t think my vote was particularly unfair. In fact it reflected the general consensus. Nobody gave it above 2 in any category, except one person voted 3 for audio.
shockedfrog
10. Sep 2010 · 18:39 UTC
In that particular case (MetroDriver’s game, to save others the hassle of looking) it was deserved – the game didn’t seem to have anything to do with the theme and looking at it closer I think it might have been intended as a somewhat subtle joke entry. I don’t think anyone’s suggesting removing the ability to give all 1s where appropriate. The issue is that there are some people who are doing it for other reasons, people who clearly haven’t taken the time to judge a game fairly. Anyone with common sense can take a quick look at Martoon’s game and say that, even if they don’t particularly like it as a whole, it has a number of things going for it and no reasonable judge would give it all 1s. The only explanations I can come up for those scores in this case are (in no particular order):