{"author_name":"Martoon","cat":"LD  #18 - Enemies as Weapons - 2010","comments":[{"author_name":"","time":"September 7, 2010 4:40 pm","epoch":1283895600,"text":"Thanks for putting this together.  I also noticed the trolling with a solid row of 1s for my entry and some others.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"September 7, 2010 5:37 pm","epoch":1283899020,"text":"I think it&#8217;s best to just count the votes as they are cast.  Maybe the row of ones was someone being a jerk, but it&#8217;s also quite possible it was what they thought the game should get.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a good way to distinguish between the two.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"bluescrn","time":"September 8, 2010 12:53 am","epoch":1283925180,"text":"Or the alternative, make the voting more open, actually show name, so we can see who&#8217;s being overly harsh (or overly generous) &#8211; then we can maybe pester them for some more in-depth feedback if they havew genuine constructive criticism to make?","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"September 8, 2010 6:10 am","epoch":1283944200,"text":"Side note:  IIRC the voting calculation discards the highest and lowest scores to help with the fairness.  Phil\/Pov, please chime in if that is wrong!  I could swear we were doing that though.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"September 8, 2010 9:38 am","epoch":1283956680,"text":"@mrfun: Yes, apparently it&#8217;s supposed to do that, but it&#8217;s not. I checked the numbers on my game and it seems like nothing was removed.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"","time":"September 10, 2010 11:05 am","epoch":1284134700,"text":"I voted all ones for one of those games, and I don\u2019t think my vote was particularly unfair. In fact it reflected the general consensus. Nobody gave it above 2 in any category, except one person voted 3 for audio.","spam":"N"},{"author_name":"shockedfrog","time":"September 10, 2010 1:39 pm","epoch":1284143940,"text":"In that particular case (MetroDriver&#8217;s game, to save others the hassle of looking) it was deserved &#8211; the game didn&#8217;t seem to have anything to do with the theme and looking at it closer I think it might have been intended as a somewhat subtle joke entry. I don&#8217;t think anyone&#8217;s suggesting removing the ability to give all 1s where appropriate. The issue is that there are some people who are doing it for other reasons, people who clearly haven&#8217;t taken the time to judge a game fairly. Anyone with common sense can take a quick look at Martoon&#8217;s game and say that, even if they don&#8217;t particularly like it as a whole, it has a number of things going for it and no reasonable judge would give it all 1s. The only explanations I can come up for those scores in this case are (in no particular order):","spam":"N"}],"epoch":1283886480,"likes":0,"metadata":{"p_key":"69206","p_author":"Martoon","p_authorkey":"2355","p_urlkey":"105009","p_title":"Some voting stats\u2026","p_cat":"LD  #18 - Enemies as Weapons - 2010","p_event":"LD18","p_time":"1283886480","p_likes":"0","p_comments":"7","p_status":"UPD5","us_key":"2355","us_name":"Martoon","us_username":"martoon","event_start":"1282262400","event_key":"4","event_name":"LD18"},"text":"<p>After getting slammed with a couple of troll rating votes (people who rated an entry with 1s across the board, while all other votes had decent ratings), I was curious about how much this was happening overall in the voting.<\/p>\n <p>I ran some numbers, and put a report here:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/spampudding.com\/troll.txt\">http:\/\/spampudding.com\/troll.txt<\/a><\/p>\n <p>The format is username and how many troll rating lines they received (1 or 2), followed by their average ratings in each category, followed by what their average ratings\u00a0<em>would<\/em> have been without the troll votes.<\/p>\n <p>These five entries were hit the hardest, each losing a quarter of a point or more in at least one category due to troll votes: <a href=\"http:\/\/spampudding.com\/trolltop.txt\">http:\/\/spampudding.com\/trolltop.txt<\/a><\/p>\n <p>Assuming all votes were logged, I&#8217;m wondering if maybe the admins could go through the database and see if it was the same couple people making these votes.<\/p>","time":"September 7th, 2010 2:08 pm","title":"Some voting stats\u2026"}