Terraform Junction VS by Jwatt

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made by Jwatt for LD32 (JAM)
Alright buddies here's some hot local multiplayer territory control action. Your primary weapon is controlling the flow of resources in a shared arena. Get the most suitable swag for yourself while poisoning the opponent's income flow.

More precise gameplay instructions on the game page.

NEW! Further development is GO: the post-jam build contains a practice mode and usability improvements, with more to come.

Ratings

Coolness 58% 3
Overall(Jam) 3.31 447
Audio(Jam) 3.21 312
Fun(Jam) 3.06 514
Graphics(Jam) 3.58 369
Humor(Jam) 1.87 902
Innovation(Jam) 3.78 112
Mood(Jam) 3.03 538
Theme(Jam) 3.14 671

Feedback

monstersauce
21. Apr 2015 路 03:22 UTC
Interesting game, different from the other submissions I've played so far.
馃帳 Jwatt
21. Apr 2015 路 03:31 UTC
For "An Unconventional Weapon", it would've been too obvious to make a platformer where you throw your equipment or something. I still found this theme inspiring in a sort of abstract way, like how it's really about conflicts in unusual scenarios.
Park
21. Apr 2015 路 06:40 UTC
Great concept, really needed to sit and think for a while about how to possibly make turns favorable when construction is randomized. Messing with the opponent seems pretty risky without a solid grasp of how resources will follow the paths. My first play turned the map into an incomprehensible mess. :P
馃帳 Jwatt
21. Apr 2015 路 10:57 UTC
Chaotic layouts are part of the fun of the mid-/late-game.

Also to reword what's said in the description, resources will always go straight forward when they can. If they can't and have to make a decision, they'll turn counterclockwise. Factor in collisions and dead ends fizzing them out. Reading paths quickly is the core skill that can be practiced in this game.
RyanNielson
21. Apr 2015 路 12:51 UTC
Interesting game, probably one of the more unique games I've played during this jam. I really love the graphics and the sound, they go together really well. The game's confusing at first, and could use some more explanation, but after you get the hang of it it's really interesting. Nice job!
馃帳 Jwatt
21. Apr 2015 路 13:31 UTC
Played this with some friends just now, they loved it but pointed out how buildings should be differently colored for each owner, so you can plan roads more effectively (without bring the cursor to the building first to see who owns it). I think that might reduce the initial confusion.
Anikki
21. Apr 2015 路 13:54 UTC
Graphics are great, very clean. And I like the CGA feel. Gameplay/controls are snappy. Maybe lacking a bit in feedback for the new player... but thats what the instructions are for ;-).
馃帳 Jwatt
21. Apr 2015 路 14:09 UTC
Yeah player feedback is always the tricky part. I don't want to cram walls of text on screen for obvious reasons.

I figured a tutorial would defeat the point too. I'm giving the players a system, and it's up to them to find out what configurations are beneficial. I don't want to explicitly point out and create a bias toward certain strategies.

So the next best thing I could try was to make the system transparent - resources move around slowly enough, buildings have hopefully helpful descriptions, any text on screen updates in real time, etc.
Dining Philosopher
21. Apr 2015 路 16:53 UTC
Nice game, looks pretty polished and we liked the music.
It was not very clear to us how the game worked though. As others pointed out, coloured buildings and more clear feedback on how money is gained/lost would be helpful.
馃帳 Jwatt
21. Apr 2015 路 18:34 UTC
I ought to address things like that in a post-jam fix build. Tweaks in usability are technically trivial to implement. Since I consider the game feature-locked, it'd just be small hindsights that would communicate the coolness of these features better.
GTA LUDUM V
22. Apr 2015 路 07:23 UTC
unique game~! got confused in the beginning and making some random terrain at the first turn, overall I enjoyed it~! well done!
馃帳 Jwatt
22. Apr 2015 路 10:29 UTC
So I'm messing around with building colors: the base color is blue for Player 1 and red for Player 2, and it actually looks really neat.

Another improvement is that when a resource gives the floating -20/+20 text, that text is the color of that resource - a simple thing that underlines at a glance what sort of income was useful and what wasn't. (Maybe score updates should somehow flash the total score too..?)

The next thing I noticed is that all floating text should have a 1px outline for clarity.

Maybe the post-jam version could have some sort of practice/infinity mode too, with like arrows showing where the resource wants to go. I don't know, wouldn't want to overcomplicate things or cause feature creep.
馃帳 Jwatt
22. Apr 2015 路 21:20 UTC
Although, having played another match of this against a first-timer, seems like some sort of practice mode is definitely the thing.
ehtd
23. Apr 2015 路 01:33 UTC
Nice game
maunovaha
23. Apr 2015 路 16:44 UTC
Okey, almost everything is probably said already. :D.. But regardless, I liked the way you approached the theme, this is a good idea for a more polished game. The graphics are nice and the tune is good.

If I were to criticize anything it was mostly that I had hard time to separate the work of player 1 and 2 because of the colors. Other thing which I noticed were that controls were a bit difficult to grasp as I kept making circles with my own money! :)
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 14:51 UTC
The first POST-JAM BUILD is GO! I took you guys' feedback into account and will continue to make some tweaks in the future.
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 14:51 UTC
(As in a proper title screen, more music and cute animation things)
C.Lodwick
24. Apr 2015 路 15:50 UTC
Really great concept looking forward to playing a more balanced version with a friend or two!
Saltysandwiches
24. Apr 2015 路 16:00 UTC
It has a good design, but understanding the gameplay is hard and no good explanation is given.
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 16:00 UTC
More balanced? I'd appreciate some pointers about what felt unbalanced here.

Remember that everything, including your opponent's buildings and roads, is an asset. That's why it's possible to recover even from seemingly insurmountable cash differences. Playing this somehow "optimally" (well, at least without rushing through), Player 1 and Player 2 both usually have managed around $5000 in the end.
rjhelms
24. Apr 2015 路 17:24 UTC
Very refreshing change from the rest of the entries. I really like the direction you're taking the post-jam version, too.

For some reason (maybe RNGsus hates me?) on the first playthrough I didn't get any power-plants - worked fine on later attempts, though.
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 17:34 UTC
Ah, that's a bummer. Teeeeechnically it doesn't matter even if all the buildings are banks, then it just becomes a race to get the least minus points. But it is a bit silly, I'll see if I can add conditional RNG.
Prowler
24. Apr 2015 路 19:47 UTC
Very good concept! Its fun to play but I didn't found the esoteric race condition in time ;) Your sprites are pretty and I'd love to see you craft a Sim city clone! Good job!
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 22:27 UTC
Hmm, I don't think I could do "just a" Simcity clone. Sim games are one of my favorite game types, but my sort of jam is weird conceptual takes on them.

Okay the dream is of course some kinda massive evolving simulation with learning AI and all that, but during game jams, I like to take one really specific aspect as the central theme and bring it to some sort of interesting conclusion. Like how logistics are the entire interface in this one.
馃帳 Jwatt
24. Apr 2015 路 22:28 UTC
...And how you can create conflict with only that logistics interface, of course.
Smiley
24. Apr 2015 路 22:35 UTC
nice strategy game and as others have pointed out a bit confusing at the start.
syncxzoz
25. Apr 2015 路 14:03 UTC
good concept... the graphics also good....
馃帳 Jwatt
26. Apr 2015 路 11:49 UTC
Thanks brahs.
Franklin's Ghost
26. Apr 2015 路 15:03 UTC
Beautiful looking game which is really nicely designed. The colour choices are great but as you've already mentioned I think different colours for the different players roads would have helped.
Team Ex-Sword-Stential
07. May 2015 路 09:20 UTC
I've never understood things like poor multiplayer facsimiles of the road-building tool from SimCity.

Isn't it great how when you leave negative, nonconstructive feedback on someone's entry they can come over to your entry and leave equally negative, nonconstructive feedback?

At least I can write dirty words with the roads.
馃帳 Jwatt
07. May 2015 路 23:51 UTC
What I think of the above: part of being a creator is being able to deal with one negative comment among 99 positive ones. The fear of retaliation is a bad motivation from not speaking your mind.

I don't care if this kind of poop-flinging happens to my game, but it's unfortunate if "revenge voting" is a thing that actually takes place on a larger scale here.
Team Ex-Sword-Stential
12. May 2015 路 03:26 UTC
Hey, I voted your game fairly. I gave you several stars in some categories. I always vote games fairly and objectively, no matter how bad their developer's PR.

You shouldn't assume things, you know. It's bad form.